
Wamai’s AUG A2 vs. MP5K: Loadout META – Rainbow Six Siege
What’s up guys, Rogue-9 here! Wamai has been out on the test servers for
a couple of weeks now and will be coming to the release version of the game very soon. He is the first defender to have access to
an assault rifle since Jäger, who came with the launch version of the game over 4 years
ago; so some the questions you might have could be: “Which of his primaries should I run?” “What are their individual strengths and weaknesses?” “Is one of them objectively better?” Or maybe: “Which one will suit my playstyle?” Well, those are the kind of questions that
we answer here on the Rogue-9 channel and this Loadout META analysis
should be especially interesting! AUG A2 assault rifle vs. MP5K submachinegun, let’s go! We start with the usual overview and at
first glance, it looks as if we might be in for a bit of a surprise here. Normally the attackers have the upper hand
when it comes to weaponry in Rainbow Six Siege but a lot of these performance metrics
seem to indicate that the MP5 has quite a bunch of advantages over the more cumbersome rifle. So let’s get a little bit more detailed. Even though the AUG is a relatively
mediocre gun compared to the rest of the assault rifle class (3% below the average close range damage
and 2.5% above the average long range damage) the raw damage per shot is still
significantly higher for this assault rifle compared to the MP5 and the damage drop-off also starts later. The MP5K is also a very middle of the road
weapon compared to the rest of the SMG class with close range damage that is 2.6% below
the mean average but long range damage that is 5% above average. This is somewhat balanced out by the fire rate. Both guns are just below the average for their
respective weapon classes and that makes the AUG 10% slower than the MP5K. More bullets per second sprayed all over an
opponent means a greater chance of landing that all important headshot and then of course
there is also the beneficial effect on Damage Per Second and the time to down/kill. Speaking of which, the DPS of the two
guns at long range is surprisingly close, with the AUG only just winning out by less than 20 points. At the all-important close ranges though,
the AUG has a very clear advantage by dishing out over 100 HP more in
damage for every second of burst time. And this advantage of the AUG becomes even
more apparent when we move on to the shots and the time to down/kill. The rifle consistently requires one shot less
to down or kill opponents of all armour classes at close ranges before damage drop-off and
for level 3 armours & leg shots, it’s even 2 shots less. Then, despite the fact that the DPS stats
at long ranges are pretty close for both guns, the required shots are again 1 or two less for the AUG. A clean sweep for the rifle and
maybe that’s not all that surprising. The age-old rule of Siege is that the
attackers have more powerful weapons still applies. As mentioned earlier, the fire rate helps
balance things out a bit but nevertheless, the Time to Down/Kill is also consistently
worse for the MP5 (as long as you are getting torso or limb shots of course). On average, it is going to take 63.89ms more
to take out opponents at closer ranges and then keep in mind as well that drop-off for
the MP5 begins at 18m, whereas the AUG retains full power until 25m. For long ranges, the average TTK is 61ms
longer for the SMG, all other things equal, so again a clean sweep for the AUG at all ranges. The bottom line here is that when it comes
to killing potential against full health opponents, in any scenario except where immediate
headshots are involved, the AUG is objectively superior to the MP5K. So maybe things aren’t
looking that great for the old MP5 after all… But maybe it can make up some
ground when it comes to target acquisition, controllability and other usability stats. Capacity is the same for both guns so that’s
a draw but the reload speed is half a second or more shorter for the MP5 compared to the AUG. The AUG is pretty much as average as you
can get for the rifle class and not only are the SMGs in general a bit quicker to reload but
the MP5K is above average, especially when it comes to the tactical reload. As was to be expected, the Aim Down Sight
times are also in favour of the MP5K and while the advantage that the SMGs hold over
the rifles is still proportionally the same as it has always been (the rifles are 50% slower),
the overall ADS time shift at the beginning of Operation Ember Rise has basically
compressed the range of aim times that we get and the difference is nowadays only
100ms compared to the 150ms it used to be. In my opinion, this compression has
benefited the slower weapons and so even though the MP5 is still the winner in this category,
the difference is not as great as it used to be over most of the lifespan of Rainbow Six Siege. And speaking of aiming, I think it’s also
worth highlighting that when IQ picks the AUG A2, she will of course still have access
to an ACOG but Wamai, as a defender, does not. So both of his primaries have exactly the
same options when it comes to optics. Hip fire spread is a minor aspect when it
comes to combat effectiveness of any given gun in Siege because of how impractical hip
firing is in general but as I have mentioned in previous videos, a smaller hip fire cone
is also useful when aiming in because you can reach a passable accuracy just that
little bit sooner and here again, the MP5 shines. When prone and not moving both guns
perform exactly the same but in all other cases, the SMG is a lot better with a hip fire
cone that is on average 46% smaller. And last but definitely not least we need
to compare the recoil of the two guns and the first thing to note is that both
guns are really comfortable to control. Here are the in-game charts for both guns
with various attachments, so let me quickly walk you through those first. All the way on the left for each gun are the
recoil patterns without attachments, then we have the guns with the flash hider added
and finally for the MP5K there are also the options with the compensator and the muzzle brake. Both gun models already have vertical grips
attached, so there are no grip options available but on the plus side, the baseline recoil
patterns for both guns are already pretty damn good. The AUG (for whatever reason) is one of the
few guns in the game that never received the muzzle brake or the compensator as
attachments, so the flash hider is pretty much the only way in which you can improve its recoil. Now if we compare, you can see that the
baseline vertical recoil for both guns is pretty much identical, it just doesn’t get much closer than that. The horizontal recoil for the AUG is incredibly
consistent (probably amongst the best in the game out of all full auto weapons) but the
MP5 starts to open up after the third shot. Attaching the flash hider to the AUG is helpful
of course but since the horizontal dispersion is already so tight, the benefit is pretty limited. It’s a real shame that this gun doesn’t
get access to the muzzle brake, since that attachment would be the perfect tool to
give us the best possible recoil with the AUG… and maybe that’s why the gun doesn’t have it? Maybe the recoil would just be too good? I don’t know… whatever the case, when
both guns have the flash hider attached; the AUG is still the winner in my eyes
because of the superior horizontal control. But for the MP5, I wouldn’t
necessarily go with the flash hider anyway. The muzzle brake, which helps a bunch in
reducing the first shot recoil is great for keeping down the vertical climb of the gun but if
you are going to be firing longer bursts, then the horizontal recoil reduction of the
compensator might be the best choice for you. The subjective control tests that you can
see in the background were run at 10m distance and you can see the effect of each
attachment on the patterns that I was able to create. At the end of it all though, the winner for
me in the recoil category is still the AUG A2. The characteristics of both guns are very
similar except that the MP5 is a bit less predictable during longer bursts and on top
of that, the slower fire rate of the AUG also makes this gun even easier to handle. So, let’s tot up the scores and draw a conclusion here! The AUG is hands down the deadlier gun when
it comes to takedown power, against all opponents and at all ranges and on top of that, it’s
also just that little bit easier to control. The MP5 has the higher fire rate and the
nimbler reload & ADS speeds going for it and, for what it’s worth, it also has better hip fire spreads. My overall conclusion here is that we have a situation that is similar to Mozzie with his two primaries. One is a little bit slower to handle and has
a slower fire rate, which makes it less reactive and a bit more challenging when it comes
to headshots; but at the same time it is also just straight up superior if you’re landing
body or limb shots and if you have decent discipline when it comes to
pre-aiming before taking on engagements. There is something to be said for the quick
aim time and fire rate of the MP5 as well though. This gun is still a very viable option for
all players and depending on the defensive site and your personal playstyle, you
might still prefer this SMG over the rifle. Nevertheless since Wamai is a defender
and probably best played in an anchoring role, you could argue that being able to react
quickly with faster ADS time is not that valuable in most scenarios and so my conclusion is
that most players will probably benefit from sticking with the AUG. Both of these guns should be familiar to
most of you already, so what are your thoughts? Which one will you be playing more and in
which situations? You know the drill, let me know in the
comment section below or leave a quick vote in the poll on screen now. If my analysis of these guns was helpful
to you at all, do feel free to leave the video a “like” and with that, many thanks for
watching, I hope you enjoyed the video and I will see you in the next episode!
Small correction! The AUG A2 does of course have access to the compensator (but not the muzzle brake) but the compensator does absolutely nothing for the AUG, so it might as well not exist 😉
Welp thanks to Rogue 9 I now know what I’m gonna run on Wamai (AUG)
Aug ever day
I love how the commando 9 is called an ar but it literally shoots 9mm
The AUG is a no brainer, the MP5K doesn’t seem very consistent
0:12 correction, mozie has an ar too
The AUG’s screen placement is so bad. Now imagine playing with it on console at 60 FOV.
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Mozzie’s commando 9 is classified as an assault rifle though…
The fact Ubi gave him the MP5K as the alternative instead of something like a shotgun baffles me. The MP5K has no realistic advantage, unless you think that having a barely faster ADS time, barely faster Reload time, barely faster Rate of Fire, and a kinda better hipfire diamond (which you stopped using once you got out of bronze) is worth it.
MP5K is a headshot machine.
Let’s be honest, at the end of the day, you’re just gonna use the one you have a black ice for
That's pretty shit the Aug doesn't have access to acog…
0:09 mozis commando is an assault rifle
Wait isn’t Mozzy commando 9 a auto rifle to?
Wamai isn't the first operator with an assault rifle since Jäger. The commando from Mozzie is an AR!
Theres 3 ARs on defense, the 416-c Carbine, Commando 9, and now the Aug A2
0:10 Mozzie's gun is classified as AR
The community achieved BOSG ACOG,they can achieve AUG A2 model to be resized,just scream loud enough.
Because that's unfortunately how Ubi hears
And with pistol is better ?
When he will be available on normal servers?
For those of you who have played the tts which is the best new op that I should spend my hard earned renoun on??
The mp5k should be changed to a shotgun to mirror Jäger
Just saying, Mozzie's commando is also an ar
Mozzie have got an assault rifle
The AUG has a compensator as well
If wamai got an attacker AR without an acog..
Maybe we could get 416-C acog on attack?
Mozzie has an AR too though
Hey, you made a small mistake in the video. In the beginning you said that Wamai is getting the first AR on defense since Jager, however Mozzie's commando is an AR aswell. Just a minor issue 🙂
Edit: Nevermind, it seems you've addressed it in another comment.
Pretty sure the commando 9 is an assault ride
Is there a set date for the new update?
Isn't Mozzie's commando an AR?
“The only operator to have an assault rifle since jaeger”
Sad vigil and mozzie noises
Wait, so it IS possible for two ops that have the same gun to have different attachement options?
Acog on Tachanka's SMG when?
Hey umm just a mistake you made at the start 0:09 you said that Wamai's Aug has been the first AR to come out since Jager's but Mozzie has the commando 9 which is also an AR
Sooo, Wamai now is the new Jäger or what? His gadget seems even better than Jägers because it recharges and catches the explosive to become a grenade instead of just deleting it. So we essentially got both of our german operators swapped out for better ones, great.
Hey i love ura cpntent so much that i watched this at a house party 🤣🤣❤
Mp5k should get a ACOG to be balanced to thr Aug
I think what Ubi is doing with these new operators is that they are trying to get people to use weapons that are not commonly used, such as the MPX (people only use the gun on Valk because of her ability and they don't want to use the shotgun), the FMG-9 (because Smoke SMG-11 + shotgun), and the German LMG (because the .552 has just been better in most scenarios). So I don't think they are actually running out of weapons to add (because that's a load of bs), they are just trying to get people to use weapons they normally wouldn't on operators
"First defender to have access to an assault rifle since jäger"
*Screeches in commando 9*
Mp5k, I have black ice for it
These are all valid points but regardless what the stats say I will use the mp5 because it doesn't take up 70% of my screen
So exited to buy these new ops when they come out, i've saved some R6 credits for this
Let's be real, the only right answer is to use the one you have black ice for
I have multiple clips of these past 2-3 weeks where headshots are not killing in one hit even when not hitting anything else, more testing from rogue-9 to confirm?
Kaid also has the Aug A3 which is an assault rifle
I just don’t understand why he didn’t just get Kaid’s AUG? Surely that’d be a better fit for a defender entirely and more balances
give wamai a bazooka
Nah I'ma take fire rate and ADS time over taking the AUG, I play too aggressively to use a slow AR on defense
Mozze gets a rifle
Great idea:
Place the wamai magnet on the hostage. The attackers toss a nade or fuse the objective, the grenades will fly to the hostage, killing him, so you can win the round.
I really wish that he is a 3 armor and has an acog on the aug
Commando 9 is also Assualt Rifle
Mozzie has the commando 9
Heck , I didn’t even listen I was so into the gameplay I got distracted
Wish he got gridlocks Aug
Mozie has an assault rifle
Mozzie has a assult rifle too
Time to play frisbee boiis
TLDR: Aug is better for anchors with better damage but the mp-5k is better for roaming or lurching with the higher ads speed and faster rate of fire
0:10 Mozzies Commando 9: I am a joke at you?
U forgot to mention how much of the screen the AUG takes up with a holo which is the sight most people prefer
Mozzie has the commando which is an assault rifle I think
Mozzie’s commando 9 is an assault rifle too
Mozzie also has an assault rifle
Mozzie also have an ar in his kit.
Mozzie launched with an assault rifle before wamai tho
Mozzie has an ar so wamai is the 3rd op with and ar
I'm of course taking the Aug A2 because it's my only black ice
Also vigils gun is an assault rifle aswell
Wamai looks like black panther
The aug is perfectly balanced, NOBODY has cries about it, let’s not cry about it now🤷🏻♂️
"first assault rifle since Jager"
Cries in vigil
Do a FMG-9 and MP5K comparison so I know whether I should play smoke or mute based on the loadout
So they give the AUG to Wamai, which has a low close range damage but high long range damage, then give him the 1x zoom sights, meaning he's only practical for medium/short range. Well done ubi. Great idea.
Isn’t the 416-C Carbine is an assault rifle?
These ops are made for console, looking at their stats :/
The AUG has the 3rd highest close range dps for defense only being beaten by the H416C and the ALDA 5.56. It also has the second highest rated ranged dps, only being beaten by the ALDA 5.56. Add on the fact that it's so easy to control and it's going to become a defender favorite, I guarantee it. The large model is annoying, sure, but not nearly as bad when using the 1x sights compared to the ACOG.
I pefer the mp5k its smaller and more controllable for me
0:16 "First defender with access to an assault rifle"
(screams in Korean)
I just checked and you subed to me i am so happy thenks
Mario says: "USE THE AUG A2 THE BE JAGER #2"
Luigi says: "USE THE MP5K UNLESS YOU'RE GAY".
the new season is not live yet and I don't want to watch a new map too much. I had to keep listening to your content as audio
Yes the 416 is a Assault Rifle, but not Jägers 416-c.
Aug? Never heard of that. MP5K? What’s that? Keratos all the way
When rogue-9 becomes a Nazi:
Rogue-NIEN
When is next hot breach podcast or have u guys scrapped it?? :'(
I choose the Aug, just because i dont like the mp5k, its just doesn't feel okay to fight with, that why i dont really like to play mute, i am not fan of the Aug ether, the sound and the rpm is just not for me. But in this case i will go with the Aug, for the very reason which you explained in the video.
#MP5KACOG
Mp5k because i have black ice
Small MP5k buff idea: it doesn’t have the option to attach a grip, but it’s more compact than a normal MP5. So, why not make it ADS at the same speed as an SMG would with an angled grip attached? Might give it a little bit more of an edge over the AUG.
When will episode 59 of the hot breach podcast be out?
He has the first full length assault rifle
Jaeger has a carbine
No one is using the mp5
Does anybody know what happened to the hot breach pod?
Wamai is the first defender with an assault rifle, Jager's gun is classified as a carbine, not an assault rifle
Why everyone forgets that vigil has access to K1A which is an assault rifle it even fires 5.56×45
Isnt vigils weapon an assault rifle too
Well I have Black Ice for MP5K so its clear which gun is better
they should've added an aug a4 since a2 and a4 are virtually the same, except a4 is smaller
Aug for sure man. I love the mp5 but I gotta go with the fact that the aug is stronger and easier to control